Wednesday, September 20, 2017


I may have mentioned something about this before but I'm not sure I was certain but I'm fairly certain now: each member of the cast (when healthy) worked 11 months a year and were given a whole month off - at once.  When I have declaration of this from the media, I have noted these times on the right hand side of the Crazy World blog.  It's interesting to note these as you listen to the show in order.

Time, the internet and Vic and Sade

I'm not sure how many of you know this, but I am physically disabled.  This disability has given me time to research.  The internet has given me the ability to research without leaving my house.  I really enjoy Vic and Sade and have a natural curiosity about all the holes in the show that we know nothing about.

Put those things together and you can see that I have spent a great deal of time looking into all things Vic and Sade.

I don't tell you this to brag but I have found the answers to dozens of previously unanswered questions about the show.  Most of the answers have come from newspaper and magazine articles which I have found over the years that somehow Barbara Schwartz and The Friends of Vic and Sade were unable to discover.

One of the things constantly updated is the FAQ and it's section about famous fans of the show.  I remember the list being at about 10 when I first found the show.  I haven't counted, but I must have a list of at least 50 famous people now.  I like to think that means since I started these websites and began this research that the Vic and Sade information has quintupled.  That's a pretty cool thought!

I still am in awe and appreciation of all of you who have written articles, provided audio, sent me pieces of information, added comments to the sites, have done interviews with me... every piece has counted.

Every time I think - that's it - there can't be any new information - well, that's when I find a whole new stash of things.  The next stash may never come, but it probably will.

Uncle Fletcher and waffles!

According to the book "The Mouse that Roared", Daws Butler used an Uncle Fletcher-type voice for this Aunt Jemima commercial, circa 1970s:

Thursday, July 6, 2017

Fan letter #19

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #18

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #20

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Sunday, July 2, 2017

Fan letter #17

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Fan letter #16

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Wednesday, June 28, 2017

Fan Letter #18

Fan Letter #15

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fred, the Big Lug, Doesn’t Have Lug Nuts

In the 44-09-12 episode “Changing Stembottom's Tires”, Vic complains bitterly about being invited over to the Stembottom’s to help Fred work on his car.  While Vic claims to enjoy working on cars, or “tinkering” as he calls it, he considers the work Fred has lined-up to be just manual labor.  Let’s understand why…

First some definitions.  A wheel is comprised of three parts: 1.  The tire (the rubber part that wears out),  2. The rim (the center section that holds the tire and attaches to the car) and 3. The inner tube (the inflatable bladder inside the tire – note that all new cars are tubeless and do not have this part).

Rotating one’s tires refers to the practice of changing the position of the tires to equalize wear on them and to prolong their life (this would have been really important during the war when rubber was scarce).  With older rear wheel drive cars the rear tires would wear more quickly.  On newer front wheel drive cars the front tires wear more quickly.  To maximize the life of the entire set of tires, the front and rear tires can periodically be exchanged.  Newer cars, with radial tires, require that the front and rear tires be exchanged but remain on the same side of the car.  Older cars, with bias ply tires, require that the front and rear tires be exchanged by crossing sides (e.g. front passenger side tire is exchanged with the rear driver’s side tire).   On a diagram this makes an “X” and is referred to as “cross switching”

On newer cars the tire/rim assembly (the wheels) are attached to the car using several nuts or “lug nuts”.  The entire wheel assembly (rim and tire) can be removed easily by removing the lug nuts.  But on some vintage cars, particularly those prior to 1920 or so, the rim is semi-permanently attached to the car and only the tire can be removed1.  Removing just the tire (i.e. manually de-mounting a tire from the rim) is a tedious and difficult process.

Fred’s car doesn’t have lug nuts, so the tires must be de-mounted from the rims.   The rims remain attached to the car. The tires must then then be re-mounted on the rim at the tire’s new position.  And unlike the swapping a complete wheel assembly, the tires must be deflated to de-mount them and then re-inflated once they are on the new rim. 

De-mounting/re-mounting a tire is difficult, as the diameter of the rim is slightly larger than the tire’s inner diameter.  A set of pry bar like tools are required to pry the tire off-of / onto the rim.   More often than not it results in a pinched finger!  Professional garages use a tire mounting machine which makes it much easier. 

Fred’s old car requires all four tires to be deflated, manually de-mounted, re-mounted to the new location, and then re-inflated.    To make matters worse, the tires need to “cross”, so the you cannot simply jack up one side of the car at a time.  

With today’s cars, the wheels can be rotated in less than 30 minutes.  On Fred’s car, with its permanent rims and bias play tires, the job may take several hours.  It’s no wonder that Vic howled like a panther when he heard what Fred had in store for him! 

Leave it to Paul Rhymer to make something as dull as rotating tires into an interesting and humorous episode! 
-- Dave Duckert (Dave in Wisconsin)

1.        Popular Mechanics December 1970  p 113

Sunday, June 25, 2017

More fan mail coming

I've been sick the past few days with a virus, but I hope to be able to post more fan mail for you, shortly.

Thursday, June 22, 2017

Art work!

Artwork by Coni Dowden

Fan letter #14

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #13

 Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Lucille Husting 1931

Fan letter #12

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Sunday, June 18, 2017

Fan letter #11

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
Call Number M89-357
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Fan letter #10

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #9

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #8

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #7

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Friday, June 16, 2017

Fan letter (Sacred Stars)

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #2

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #5

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #4

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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Fan letter #3

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Fan letter #1

Paul Rhymer Papers, Additions
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A secret Vic and Sade website

For those who don't remember, at one time, I had a web site that devoted entirely to Uncle Fletcher.  I eventually phased it out and it no longer exists.

You also may not know about Garbled-de-Gook, a website I began a few years ago and just never finished.  If you are doing Vic and Sade research, it may or may not come in handy.

Thursday, June 15, 2017

Love Letters to Vic and Sade

Thanks (again) to Dave Duckert, there is now a new Vic and Sadecast up.  This one is called, "Love Letters to Vic and Sade".  Dave recently made a trek to the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison and was allowed to leaf through and copy several fan letters to the show.

Dave got his family and friends together and recorded the letters, along with Sarah Cole and myself.  Some of these letters will really hit home with you, either in a fun or a sad way.  This program lasts a little more than 16 minutes but it packs a wallop, emotionally.  Dave did a wonderful job choosing the letters for all to read, and as always, is a fine host.

I hope you will check out the show and leave Dave some feedback.  He deserves it!

Tuesday, June 6, 2017

A list of 6-6-17 additions

Monday, June 5, 2017

A couple of new additions and changes

New synopsis: 38-05-09 A Mildred Melodrama

Vic wants to see a Gloria Golden film?

A catalog of recent additions

Sunday, June 4, 2017

Crooper, Illinois and where that came from

If you are any kind of fan of Vic and Sade, you know that somewhere down the line, someone said
that Vic and Sade was set in Crooper, Illinois. It's been known to be set in other odd places too, but let's not get all into that now. Let's focus on Crooper.

The story goes this way: the dad-gummed (horrible) Vic and Sade television show is to blame.   The 1957 TV show had Yamilton's Department Store in Crooper.  Someone named Fred Schroeder then claimed in print that the Gooks lived in Crooper, which lies 40 miles from Peoria. Come to find out, there is no Crooper - it's Cooper. While it is close to Bloomington, it's certainly not Bloomington.

Another new episode synopsis

xx-xx-xx Sky Brothers Initiated in Sade's Precious Home

New episode and more

Four bits of new trivia added here.

A new episode is logged here.

32-07-04 Sade Wants to Communicate

More trivia added.  (Books Vic has read).

32-06-28 Audition #2

New trivia added.

Small details being added to episodes

When John Hetherington's book was released, I was able to obtain a multitude of information about many episodes we knew nothing about.

Since this was Hetherington's work, I felt it crucial to leave out numerous details along the way, so that left his book with a lot of "bite"; in other words, I didn't want to let the whole cat out of the bag.

However, this past week, I asked Hetherington if would be okay to share these left-out details with you and add them to the episodes of the Crazy World website, to which he readily consented.  So, over the next few weeks, I will be adding that stuff.

I will also let you know on this website what I added and where.  It's redundant, but necessary.

Tuesday, May 30, 2017

Cool surprises coming

We've been lucky enough to run into a very neat Vic and Sade surprise, which is really a bountiful gift in so many ways.

I don't want to spoil the fun now as it will take a bit of time to organize things.  Rest assured though, the fun is spread around in many different areas and we'll all get to be a part of it.

Be on the lookout.

Also, whoever sent me the "Garbage Wagon Pass"... you are very clever and made me laugh.  :)  Feel free to let me know who you are!

Thursday, May 4, 2017

Third Lieutenant Stanley, Firearms Aficionado

In the May 6th, 1940 Vic and Sade episode “Working Out Hank’s Indebtedness",Rush reads a passage from a Third Lieutenant Stanley book. In the book, Lady Margaret is in the direct path of a slithering cobra and Third Lieutenant Stanley acts with authority by quickly dispatching the pesky reptile with his “automatic revolver”.

That phrase caught my attention “..automatic revolver…” I’ve been participating in the Waukesha, Wisconsin Handgun League (WHL) for over 20 years, so I have more than a passing knowledge of firearms. For those that are not aware, an “automatic revolver” is quite a rare bird indeed.

First some background on firearms terminology and history. Some of the first firearms were “single shot”. You loaded them, you fired the shot, and then you re-loaded them. A very slow and tedious process. Think of a pirate gun.

Later the “revolver” came along. This was essentially a gun with 6 or more chambers. As you squeeze the trigger the cylinder rotates, aligning one of these chambers to the barrel. You can shoot six shots quickly but the trigger pull is hard. This is because when you pull the trigger you are rotating the cylinder, cocking the hammer, and then releasing the hammer. The revolver provided for quicker shooting but the hard trigger pull detracted from accuracy. Think of Dirty Harry’s (Clint Eastwood) 44 Magnum Revolver.

Enter the “semi-automatic” pistol. The semi-automatic used some of the energy from the fired round to both cock the hammer and load the next round from a magazine into the chamber. A round is fired every time the trigger is pulled. Since the energy from the shot is used to cock the hammer and load the next round, the trigger pull can be made very light, enhancing accuracy.

Lastly, the “fully-automatic” pistol was developed. In the U.S. these are highly regulated and chances are you’ve only seen them in movies. The fully-automatic pistol uses some of the energy from the fired round to load a round, cock the hammer, and to drop the hammer to fire the next round. The user simply needs to hold back the trigger, and rounds are fired continuously until the trigger is released. Think of an “Uzi” machine pistol.

Notice that there isn’t an “automatic revolver”. I suspect 99 out of 100 folks would consider this an error, a combination of firearm terms that doesn’t make sense. On the contrary, consider the Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver. Introduced in 1901, it was the first commercial example of an automatic revolver. Actually, it’s a semi-automatic revolver, but it was common to call semi-automatics as automatics in the early days, since full-automatics weren’t developed yet. The recoil from a fired round would rotate the cylinder by means of a cam. It was well received by target shooters, since the trigger pull was light, as the energy from the fired bullet cocked the hammer and rotated the cylinder. But only 4,750 were produced. It wasn’t a big success and production was ceased in 1924, although it remained in the Webley catalog until 1939 (probably to clear remaining inventory). Today, a Webley-Fosbery would fetch around $13,000 from a gun collector.

So what was Third Lieutenant Stanley doing with such an obscure British firearm? The Webley-Fosbery was never adopted by any army, which makes it even stranger that a third lieutenant would have one (although British officers sometimes supplied their own personal sidearms).

All that I can conclude is that Third Lieutenant Stanley was a firearms aficionado. He was all about accuracy and speed, and in the early 1900’s the Webley-Fosbery was the Lamborghini of guns. It was rare and temperamental, but fast and accurate. Later, semi-automatic pistols came along (e.g. the Colt M1911 semi-automatic, the service sidearm for US forces for many years) making the Webley-Fosbery obsolete.

So assuming that Third Lieutenant Stanley’s adventures occurred in the early 1900’s, this would have been the firearm of choice for a man who knew guns and often used them. Although obscure, it was quick and accurate, perfect for cannibals, counterfeiters, and snakes!

-- Dave in Wisconsin

Monday, May 1, 2017

Broken link fixed!

Oops!  There was a broken link on the recent post: Double Feature in... Wisconsin?  It's been fixed.  Go on and check that out, it's some more fascinating stuff from "Dave in Wisconsin", this time with audio.

I have never been to Boone, Iowa!

Today, I got an awesome Boone, Iowa post card from "Uncle Fletcher".  I have no idea who sent it.  But I would like to tell this person that you made me smile and I thank you!

Sunday, April 30, 2017

Vic Knows ‘Watt’ He’s Talking About

In the July 11th, 1944 episode, “Don’t Scrape off the Watts!” Sade buys Vic a new light bulb.  It’s supposedly super powerful (1 million volts).  Vic, being a gadget-guy, quickly opens the package and begins to examine it.   He cleans the contacts with his pocket knife.   There’s a lot of discussion about electricity in this episode.  Since I am an electrical engineer, it’s one of my favorites.    Let’s look at that light bulb from the perspective of an engineer.  I am reminded of the Chevy Chase quote, "It was my understanding that there would be no math.”  I know that this may be a dry subject, so I promise to keep the math to a minimum.  
There is a simple law that is the basis for all electrical engineering; it’s called Ohm’s Law.  You’ve heard the terms current, voltage, and resistance.  These terms are all related to each other via Ohms’s Law.  Before I describe Ohm’s Law, consider this analogy:  

You have a garden hose.  “Current” can be considered as the volume of water flowing from the hose.   “Voltage” can be equated to the water pressure.   Put your thumb over the nozzle of the hose and you have “resistance.”   Voltage, or water pressure, is generally fixed.  In the case of the hose, it is fixed by the height of your local water tower.  In the case of electricity, it’s fixed by your local utility.   As your thumb covers more of the nozzle, the resistance is increased and the volume of water coming out of the hose drops.  The same is true with electricity; the more resistance there is to the flow of the current, the less current that will be able to  flow.  

Ohm’s law describes these three concepts:   Voltage (volts) = Current (Amps)  * Resistance (Ohms)   Eqn 1

And electrical Power is simply:    Power (Watts) = Voltage (Volt)  *  Current (Amps)    Eqn 2

Changing any one the terms in these equations will result in the other terms changing as well, to keep the equations balanced.

In your home, the voltage at the outlets are fixed at 120 Volts.   What Vic is doing by cleaning the lightbulb’s contacts is reducing the resistance, since copper oxide is more resistive than copper.  If the resistance of the contacts goes down, and the voltage is fixed at 120V, then the current must increase to satisfy Ohm’s law (Eqn 1).  
With the current increased and the voltage fixed at 120V, the power dissipated in the bulb must be larger to satisfy Eqn 2.  More power results in a brighter light.  

Vic, per usual, knows exactly what he’s doing.  Cleaning the contacts will result in a brighter bulb.  Vic explains it better than I can, “I wanna make these contact points shine up good and bright, that way more electricity can get through an’ we’ll have a brighter light.”

Sade is completely lost on this topic and has no concept of electricity.  Sade’s lack of interest in learning about how things work (recall that she had no interest in understanding how her wash machine worked either) is disappointing to me, but I see this mindset frequently in my personal life.  Russel gets it, but his conversion from horsepower to Watts is inaccurate.  One horsepower is equal to 756 Watts, not 764 Watts.

This episode ends with a sort of sappy appreciation of Sade—maybe a little too sappy.  My mother, although not technically inclined, was always interested in learning and trying technical things.  I recall that she once attempted to work on her car and filled her radiator overflow reservoir with windshield washer fluid.  After realizing her mistake, my father convinced her that we’d have to turn the car upside-down to get it out!

-- Dave from Wisconsin
Wisconsin Professional Engineering License No. 26150-6

Double Feature in... Wisconsin?

Mega-fan “Dave in Wisconsin” Duckert had an idea. What if he foisted “Vic and Sade” on some family and friends and caught their audio reactions? A great idea, but 78 years late!

Friday, April 28, 2017

Yes, Bluetooth Can Sue the Bijou!

In the April 5, 1940 Vic and Sade episode titled “Can Bluetooth Sue the Bijou?” Rush gets Vic’s opinion on Bluetooth’s chances of successfully suing the Bijou motion picture show.  Bluetooth fell through a defective theater seat and suffered “possible nervous shock and possible high blood pressure”.   As the episode progresses we learn that the reason the seat was defective was Bluetooth’s own doing.  
I often wonder how Paul Rhymer came up with these strange plots for Vic and Sade episodes.  Obviously, he was an incredibly creative guy.  But in this case, I wonder if the seed of this episode was something that was reported in the news.  In 2017, we’re used to people suing at the drop of hat – for the silliest of reasons.  But in the 1940’s, I suspect that suing a theater over a defective seat was a bit unusual and probably newsworthy.  

Consider the court case [1] of Fox West Coast Agency Corp. vs. Jean L. Forsythe. On March 24, 1940, the plaintiff,

Jean L. Forsythe, entered the United Artists Theater in Los Angeles, California. According to the complaint,  “…the seat collapsed causing her to be thrown violently to the side and down.” She was seeking damages of  $2500 for injury and suffering.

The defense countered with “…was an unusually large and unusually heavy woman weighing approximately from 275 pounds to 300 pounds, and negligently and carelessly failed to take into consideration the fact that the seat was, and all of the seats in said theater were, designed to accommodate persons of average bulk and weight and negligently and carelessly failed to control her body and the manner in which she forced her body into said seat.”

The plaintiff, maybe a bit offended by these remarks, countered “My body was firm…. it was not the flabby kind of fat that would give away at the poke of a finger. It was good hard flesh.” [I’m not kidding, it’s in the court records…]

I wonder if this story was in the news in March of 1940 and served as the seed for Paul Rhymer to write this episode? There’s no way to ever know. I searched Chicago newspaper archives and did not find it. The timing is right, as this episode aired in April of 1940, one month later. Or it could just be coincidence.

Even back in the 1940’s the world was a crazy place, but leave it to Paul Rhymer to make it even crazier in the wonderful world of Vic and Sade. I rest my case!

-- Dave from Wisconsin
[1] Case Law: United States Court of Appeals For the Ninth Circuit 
(search this file for “fox west”)

Wednesday, April 26, 2017

I’d Like to Buy the World a Chokewood Fool

When I was a kid my father had a cabin in northern Wisconsin.  This part of the state is mostly forest land.  When at the cabin, we would occasionally go for a drive to the “spring”.  After traveling many dirt roads we would come to a non-nondescript spot in the woods.  A short walk would bring you to a natural spring.  Clear and cold water bubbled-up into a small rock formation.  Someone had left an old rusty “dipper”, which was just an old sauce pan.  Back at the cabin we had well water, which you pumped by hand into a pail for drinking and washing.  But this spring water was even better, not only did it taste better but you didn’t need to manually pump it up from the ground.   And that’s what passed for entertainment in northern Wisconsin – driving to the spring to get a dipper of spring water!

In the November 11, 1943 episode of V&S titled, “Stingyberry Jam“, Uncle Fletcher relates a story of a man, Sam E. Honker,  who hated well water “worse than a snake!”  But he “cultivated a taste for well water” and would holler “bring me a dipper of well water”.  Uncle Fletcher goes on to say that Sam E.Honker liked well water more than warm lemonade, choke wood fool, or a muskmelon cordial.   It got me to wonder, what’s a Choke wood fool?  What’s a muskmelon cordial?  Warm lemonade?

What’s a Chokewood Fool?
Let’s start with the “chokewood” first.  I suspect this refers to chokeberries.  Sometime these are erroneously called Chokecherries.  Chokeberries, formally called Aronia3, are small round berries which resemble blueberries (although they can also be red, black, or purple in color).  They can be eaten and are often baked in breads or turned into juice.  So, I think chokewood actually refers to chokeberries.  

Now consider the "Fool" part.  From Wikipedia1:
“A fool is an English dessert. Traditionally, fruit fool is made by folding pureed stewed fruit (classically gooseberries) into sweet custard. Modern fool recipes often skip the traditional custard and use whipped cream. Additionally, a flavouring agent like rose water may be added.

Foole is first mentioned as a dessert in 1598 (together with trifle), although the origins of gooseberry fool may date back to the 15th century. The earliest recipe for fruit fool dates to the mid 17th century.” 

So a chokewood fool is probably a dessert-like drink made from chokeberries. 
So what’s a Muskmelon Cordial?
A non-alcoholic cordial is sometimes called a squash.  From Wikipedia2:

“Squash (also called cordial or dilute) is a non-alcoholic concentrated syrup used in beverage making.

Traditional squashes may be flavoured with elderflowers, lemon, pomegranate, apple, strawberry, chokeberry (often with spices such as cinnamon or cloves added), orange, pear, or raspberry.  Modern squashes usually have simpler flavours, such as orange, apple, summer fruit (mixed berries), blackcurrant, apple and blackcurrant, peach, pineapple, mango, lime, or lemon.”

It’s not hard to imagine a squash (cordial) made from a muskmelon (also called a honeydew melon).

Warm Lemonade?
From Wikipedia4:

“Generally served cold, cloudy lemonade may also be served hot as a remedy for congestion and sore throats, frozen, or used as a mixer.”


That almost sounds good to me, warm lemonade on a cold Wisconsin night!  Although I’m sure that Vic would disagree.  In the October 20th, 1942 episode titled “Fred's Concrete Floor” Fred Stembottom tries to lure Vic over to help with his concrete garage floor project using warm lemonade, which Vic vehemently insists he hates!

So these drinks may sound a little strange to us, but they aren’t fictitious, there really is a Chokewood Fool, a Muskmelon Cordial, and Warm Lemonade.  Cheers!

-- Dave from Wisconsin


Friday, April 21, 2017

Three Dollars and Eighty Cents was a Lot of Money!

In the "Vic and Sade" episode “Milton’s Dirt in Fruit Jars” of 4-15-40,  Rush explains his idea for a business venture to Vic.  The idea is to supply Milton Welch with additional jars of dirt.   Milton is collecting a jar of dirt from every state in the union (48 states at the time).   Uncle Fletcher wasn’t in this episode but somehow I hear him saying “Iowa, Vermont, Florida, Virginia, all them states, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, sure, all them states.”  Milton only has 10 of the 48 states in his collection so far and Rush hopes to leverage Vic’s connections in the Lodge and at the Consolidated Kitchenware Company to provide the remaining 38.   Adding Washington D.C. makes 39!  At 10 cents per jar it’s a windfall for Rush.  There’s a lot of talk about of the cost of things as Vic slowly and delicately dispels Rush’s idea. 

The accounting looks something like this:
                                                                  One Jar                                              39 Jars
Gross Sales                                                $0.10                                                  $3.90

Cost of Goods
Postage to state (1 oz)                   $0.03                                                  $1.17
Notary Fee                                     $0.25                                                  $9.75
Return postage  (30 oz)                 $0.90                                                  $35.10
Net Profit (Loss)                                      ($1.08/jar)                                          ($42.12)

·        A filled canning jar weighs about 30 oz.
·        Package postage is 3 cents/oz. 

So this endeavor would have resulted in a net loss of over $40 for poor Rush. 

I recall playing this episode for my son when he was only 6 or 7 years old.  I think the light went on in his head too, but he realized that his problem was going to be the lack of a customer!

Let’s look at what this would cost in 2017. 
            Cost of Goods                               One Jar                                             
Postage to state (1 oz)                    $0.49                 Standard postal letter rate                                         
Notary Fee                                      $5.00                 Average notary fee                        
Return postage  (30 oz)                  $7.35                 Standard postal rate                                     
Total Cost of Goods                                 ($12.84/jar)                                     

How much is that in 1940 dollars?

Fortunately, there is an inflation adjusted value tool in the internet1.  Enter a dollar amount in today’s dollars and it will calculate the equivalent amount for some time in the past.   $12.84 in 2017 dollars is equivalent to $0.74 in 1940.  Not too far from Rush’s cost of goods of $1.08!

I love the way this episode ends [ !SPOILER ALERT! ].  After Vic delicately dispels Rush’s money making idea, he senses the disappointment in Rush and gives him $3.80 “outta my own pocket”.     
[1] That $3.80 in 1940 is equivalent to $65.91 in 2017 dollars!  

Also, consider the 1941 episode “Strictly Business ChristmasLoan” where Vic gives Rush $25 for him to purchase Christmas gifts.  $25 in 1941 is $394 in 2017 dollars!  In that same episode, he gives Hank Gutstop $2, which is the equivalent of $31.54.

This demonstrates Vic’s generosity.  Vic is a good guy. 

-- Dave from Wisconsin

Thursday, April 20, 2017

Preface to Vic and Sade

Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Fan Dave Duckert provides fun audio

Dave Duckert is something of a super fan of "Vic and Sade", I'd say. You might remember that he's done a few things for the web sites and it all helps in establishing a great foothold for new and old fan alike.

I want to thank "Dave in Wisconsin" as he sometimes calls himself and allow you to listen to two pieces of audio he sent me recently, which I put on Monday's Overnightscape Central podcast; that's two weeks in a row that he's been on the "Central" and I was proud to have him there.

Dave spoke about the "Vic and Sade" radio show and he's a great storyteller and has a nice, soothing voice.  I'm sure you will agree when you hear these audio pieces.

Check out what he had to say:

audio clip 1
audio clip 2

Why Was Vic an Accountant?

I got to thinking about Vic the other day. Specifically, Vic’s job. I’m beginning to wonder if Vic had the right job. Here’s what got me thinking about this..

I work with many engineers and a few accountants. I don’t like to stereotype, but there is a noticeable difference in each professions’ skills and interests. For example, accountants can look at page of numbers (for example a balance sheet or a cash flow statement) and glean all sort of things about the performance of an enterprise. It’s a skill that takes a lot of training and years to develop. Accountants usually don’t care much about the underlying technology of the products a company produces, but rather their interest lies in more holistic view of the firm and its financial health.

Engineers are naturally curious. They see something and they immediately want to know how it works. Often this means they’ll take it apart! They generally don’t have an appreciation for the larger view of the firm and its economic performance. Rather they are fully consumed by the technology and the underlying engineering principles that support it.

It’s not always the case but there is a marked difference in the way each profession thinks and in the way they approach problems. It’s not good or bad, it just is. (full disclosure: I’m an engineer)

Now consider Vic. We know he likes to take clocks apart and we know he likes to explain mechanical things to Sade, like the operation of a washing machine (oh ish!). While he never seems to get the clocks back together again, he seems to have a genuine curiosity about mechanical things. He also like to spend time tinkering on cars in Razorscum’s garage. He even makes the distinction to between just working on a car and tinkering, in that tinkering is more exploratory, more cause and effect, and more scientific - whereas swapping out tires on Fred’s car is just uninteresting manual labor.

Vic’s accounting work often seems trivial – adding and copying columns of numbers or reconciling invoices. This doesn’t seem consistent with his title of Chief Accountant. I suspect that since Vic worked at Plant #14, his role was more about cost accounting for his local factory, with the roll-up and company performance accounting being done by the corporate office. He often seems a bit annoyed with this work – especially when he brings it home from the office (admittedly, the Gook household often conspires against him when he “brings home a job from the office”).

Clearly Vic has a head for numbers and math, which is a prerequisite for both engineering and accounting. But given his interest in mechanical things, I imagine him wandering around the Consolidated Kitchenware factory being curious about how the machines worked that made the kitchenware products (and maybe less interested in his accounting work). So, I’m wondering – would Vic have been happier as an engineer?

Apologies to all the engineers and accountants that I’ve offended!

- Dave Duckert

Wednesday, April 12, 2017

Can GENIUS be found in Vic and Sade, randomly?

The other day, in the tremendous (if I may say so) ONS Central podcast, I mentioned that you could probably take 2 minutes of random "Vic and Sade" episodes and find 'genius'. I'm not sure if I said those words exactly, but I pretty much said that.

So I sat down and picked 10 random episodes of "Vic and Sade". It just so happens that 9 of 10 ten of these are from 1939 and 1940. But again, it was random. Then I chose 2 minute segments out of each.

Five of the episodes I chose the time segment 2 minutes to 4 minutes. The remaining episodes, I chose clips from the 3 minute to 5 minute mark.

Can 'genius' be found?

See for yourself.

Newly-found Bill Idelson interview, but...

Vic and Sadecast coming this weekend?

After a "vacation", there's a very good chance that a Vic and Sadecast is coming your way this weekend.  We won't be going over and rehashing episodes: we'll be speculating about this and that.  There might be a special guest too, so you'll want to keep a lookout for this.  I could give you the topics we are exploring but then I'd have to lock you in a 25 cent barbershop all night.  So it will remain a surprise.  But rest assured, we explore some fun stuff.

PQ Ribber will be co-hosting.

Would you like to be a part of a future Vic and Sadecast?  Would you like to present audio about Vic and Sade, exploring your own topic?  Feel free to let me know or submit materials to me, I promise you, the stuff will be used to further "Vic and Sade".

You can find my email address on the left-hand side of The Crazy World of Vic and Sade.

In case you've missed it...

You know, The Crazy World of Vic and Sade is a huge place.  Even *I* overlook a lot things there.

There's a good chance you know this already but just in case, check out the section: Original, Written Pieces on Vic and Sade.  That's where you will find stuff written by fans of the show. Lots of great ideas are flowing there.

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

In defense of Sade - heart-shaped faces and wide-brimmed hats

As fans of "Vic and Sade", we are blessed to have so many fans in the community with great skills.

In this instance, I am referring to Dave Duckert.  You might remember that not too long ago, he and his family read the script about Sade mending Rooster's pants, which was a lot of fun.  He's back again, having written an article about heart-shaped faces and wide-brimmed hats - and defends Sade using internet "proof"!

It has to be seen to be appreciated (PDF file).  Please let Dave know how much you enjoy this, maybe we can entice him to do more of these type things!

Thanks Dave!

Monday, April 10, 2017

Do not miss this Vic and Sade extravaganza!

Here's a podcast that's almost 4 hours long but it's worth your time,  It's packed with Vic and Sade talk, including viewpoints I have never heard before, Vic and Sade "parody commercials" and all kinds of cool stuff.  Download it and listen a little at a time if you need to but do not miss this!

Check it out!

Sunday, April 9, 2017

Silly Vic and Sade songs and other news

Look, I'm a terrible singer but I have written quite a few songs about "Vic and Sade" over the last couple of years. If your ears can stand it and you want your dogs to howl, go grab a copy. :)

Also, sometime April 10, I will upload an ONSUG CENTRAL about "Vic and Sade". A couple of you have sent in stuff so far and the ONSUG crew loves "Vic and Sade" so it should be a fun fest. I'll give more specifics later.

Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Okay, so don't talk about Vic and Sade

Well... not one person seems to want to record a piece for an audio show I want to do about Vic and Sade. No matter, I'll simply do it without my Vic and Sade site fans and get the ONSUG people to do it. There are fans there too.

Next week, I will assemble the show. Unless you contact me this week, I hereby will null and void my previous offer of accepting audio pieces about the show.

Thursday, March 23, 2017

Your chance to talk about Vic and Sade

Hi everyone!

I have plans in April to produce a podcast about Vic and Sade. I'm not talking about a "Vic and Sadecast" but rather a show where I gather several audio opinions about the show and edit them into one program.

What I'd like to happen is to have you folks send me an audio file (of any length) where you talk about your feelings about the show, the actors, Paul Rhymer, it's effects, etc. If you wish, you can send the file to me and you will remain anonymous - just let me know when you send the file.

Please help me out! The deadline for this is April 28, 2017. You can send your contributions or inquiries to


Sunday, March 12, 2017

Rush Brings in Rooster's Pants for Mending - read by the Duckert Family

The Duckert family (patrons of The Crazy World of Vic and Sade website) have graciously lent a hand and read one of Jimbo's favorite scripts: "Rush Brings in Rooster's Pants for Mending". Bundle up with a coffee or a hot cocoa and listen along to a family that enjoys "Vic and Sade".


Friday, January 20, 2017

Re-discovering Vic and Sade (Part 3) is now online!

I just finished Part 3 of a 'mini-series' of podcasts titled "Re-discovering Vic and Sade".  I had so much fun doing these and I really think you will enjoy them as well.  I am kind of proud of Part 3.  It was just so easy to do as I simply shared some things I felt about the show with the microphone.  Please take the time to listen, I really don't think you will be disappointed.  Part 1 and Part 2 are available as well - the links to those can be found at Part 3.
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